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  1. F18

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    enn-zed said: Yeah, I won't be getting those wheels. A friend is selling one, pretty decent build and it's about 10lb lighter than my current bike so much more suited to the up, up, up, up, up, down, down, down, down, down type riding that UT has to offer.

     
    are you keeping the current bike?

    this little man will own one helluva bike quiver..

  2. illocon

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    shinobi said: first time actually watching tour de france.
    some of the finishes are crazy... especially after these guys have already ridden 150-200km throughout the day.

     

    It is such a fantastic event.

    Unfortunately, L'Equipe and a number of other French publications are already making insinuations about the performance of Wiggins.

    Bear in mind that this is someone who has been tested for the past 12 years on track and on the road, a multiple Olympic Champion, finished 4th in the Tour in 2009, took a podium at the Vuelta and won a number of classics this year, on the best funded road and track team that there may ever have been.

  3. contra

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    so this is finally public

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     They all dope

  4. F18

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    contra said:  They ALL dope

     

  5. bad63lac

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    stuuuuuuu89 said:

    enn-zed said:

    stuuuuuuu89 said:  Is it dumb to want a single speed road bike with disc brakes?

     
    Maybe not. Depends on what you 'need' disc brakes for. All the roadies seem to do fine with v-brakes.

     
    Mostly aesthetics but also for the slippery streets of Seattle.
    I'm still trying to find road frames with disc mounts. Any suggestions?

     

    You want disc brakes for aesthetics? Kind of the exact opposite of aesthetically pleasing.

    In any case, you wont find road bikes with them. You will find some "cyclocross" bikes with them (they look like a road bike but are used for road and very mild trail/offroad).      

  6. Enn Zed

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    f18 said:

    enn-zed said: Yeah, I won't be getting those wheels. A friend is selling one, pretty decent build and it's about 10lb lighter than my current bike so much more suited to the up, up, up, up, up, down, down, down, down, down type riding that UT has to offer.

     
    are you keeping the current bike?
    this little man will own one helluva bike quiver..

     

    Yeah, keeping the current bike. So I'll have:
    8" (close enough) Descender of Awesome that can climb a little bit
    5" All-Rounder Ripper
    Rigid city drunk transporter.

  7. F18

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    awesome toyz.

  8. Enn Zed

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    Forgot one - 4" 'good for nothing even when fully rigid'...

  9. jdgang

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    bad63lac said:

    stuuuuuuu89 said:

    enn-zed said:

    stuuuuuuu89 said:  Is it dumb to want a single speed road bike with disc brakes?

     
    Maybe not. Depends on what you 'need' disc brakes for. All the roadies seem to do fine with v-brakes.

     
    Mostly aesthetics but also for the slippery streets of Seattle.
    I'm still trying to find road frames with disc mounts. Any suggestions?

     
    You want disc brakes for aesthetics? Kind of the exact opposite of aesthetically pleasing.
    In any case, you wont find road bikes with them. You will find some "cyclocross" bikes with them (they look like a road bike but are used for road and very mild trail/offroad).      

     

    Check out the new 2013 Spec Road bikes the roubaix now has a disk version. They are coming!!!

  10. gerry.

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    a singlespeed cyclocross bike sounds kind of fun, i like the look of this one:

  11. Stuuuuuuu89

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     ^I really like that Civilian bike!

  12. gerry.

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    word, on sale right now, too. was $1299, now $786.

  13. soulslider

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     behold the power of electrical tape!!! This would've been a ride killer (misty flip to rock), snapped the brake mount. But was able to complete our 3 hour ride thru the hills of Wissahickon....even had a bit of front brake power to boot.

  14. bad63lac

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    jdgang said:

    bad63lac said:

    stuuuuuuu89 said:

    enn-zed said:

    stuuuuuuu89 said:  Is it dumb to want a single speed road bike with disc brakes?

     
    Maybe not. Depends on what you 'need' disc brakes for. All the roadies seem to do fine with v-brakes.

     
    Mostly aesthetics but also for the slippery streets of Seattle.
    I'm still trying to find road frames with disc mounts. Any suggestions?

     
    You want disc brakes for aesthetics? Kind of the exact opposite of aesthetically pleasing.
    In any case, you wont find road bikes with them. You will find some "cyclocross" bikes with them (they look like a road bike but are used for road and very mild trail/offroad).      

     
    Check out the new 2013 Spec Road bikes the roubaix now has a disk version. They are coming!!!

     

    Well, my comment was accurate until yesterday. :P

    In seriousness, I really dont get it. I'm definitely a fan of disc brakes on mountain bikes. Having raced DH competitively for a few years I saw the need and the transition from rim brakes was welcome. Not only was the braking power warranted, you needed it for muddy conditions.

    Now road bikes, I just dont get. Even at top speeds, flying down hill, I have never felt rim brakes to be lacking.

    Anyone who has used disc brakes know that they definitely require "tinkering". As discussed a few pages back, adjusting your caliper even a hairwidth can be the difference between rotor rub and not.

    I'm not quite sure what Specialized is thinking saying its the future. Yeah maybe if other brands hop on the train because they dont want to be seen as NOT offering something the competition has. The main reason I think they're off their rocker is - think about professional road bike racers. Are they really going to adapt? And if not, will other people?

    Think about wheel swaps mid race. There's no way you can swap in a new wheel and have the rotor on that wheel be perfectly aligned with your caliper without re-adjusting. It just doesnt happen. Maybe if you set up your caliper a little more open, requiring greater pull (but then what benefit in braking does the disc setup get you?). For that reason alone, I dont see this as the future on road bikes.

  15. Paulg

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    There are dozens of road bike companies releasing disc brake frames now.

    And I have no idea what you're talking about with the tinkering thing. Swapping a disc wheel vs a rim brake wheel is requires one less step. When you have a professional level race mechanic on your side....there will be no tinkering necessary.

    I fully believe disc brakes on road bikes are the future, they perform more consistently in all conditions, are more powerful, have better modulation, produce less wear and tear on your equipment. Hub brakes worked fine on motorcycles for years, but you don't see those anymore.

    The only reasons this will be slow to catch on is because the road geek mafia A) refuse to change and B) perceive anything that adds weight as bad, no matter the performance benefit.

  16. bad63lac

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    Please list the "dozens of companies". Cyclocross bikes excluded.

    Regarding the tinkering... Remove a disc brake wheel and replace it with another, or replace the same brand of rotor on the same wheel and remount the wheel. Guaranteed you will need to tinker with the caliper.  

  17. jdgang

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    Since I have really never had a road bike I really cant comment on the why, but from a marketing standpoint its new and shiny, and after the trickle down effect they could sell it to new riders as a better way to stop since they dont know any better. As a hopefully new road rider but a current mtb rider, I would put off my purchase if a lower (cheaper) model was available with disk brakes, since I know and trust my mtb ones, but since this is higher end and I know that rim brakes are fine I will not.

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     I can go through later and find links to many (perhaps dozens was an exaggeration) of the companies offering disc brake equipped bikes. Specialized was mentioned already and off the top of my head I know of Colnago and and Volagi. In addition Shimano and Formula are making road specific brakes this year as well.

    Those three companies alone mean that pretty much every major company is looking at it.

    Johan Bruyneel and many others said last year after all those horrible wrecks in the Tour that it's time to start considering disc's because of their superior performance. The weight thing will never be an issue for those guys either as most of them have to actually add weights to their bikes as they're lighter than what the UCI will allow.

    Disc's are coming. Make no mistake. I doubt rim brakes will die out for road bikes like they have for mountain bikes but I do believe that you will start seeing disc's on the pro's bikes as soon as the UCI allows it....they just did last year for Cyclocross so it's going to happen soon for the Roadies too.  

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    dudes cruise in the homeland.

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    Regarding disc brakes, how quick can you remove a rear wheel with traditional pad breaks over one with a disc and a caliper? I imagine the speed for a wheel change will be in the forefront of most pro-teams mind.

    Regarding the Tour, some eejit lashed 30+ carpet tacks over the summit of a climb causing Cadel 'Cuddles' Evans to puncture three times, Steve Cummins to puncture once, Nicolas Roche and Maxime Monfort to puncture and another 26 riders to puncture with one being flung over the bars and to break their collar bone.

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    illocon said: Regarding disc brakes, how quick can you remove a rear wheel with traditional pad breaks over one with a disc and a caliper? I imagine the speed for a wheel change will be in the forefront of most pro-teams mind.

    Regarding the Tour, some eejit lashed 30+ carpet tacks over the summit of a climb causing Cadel 'Cuddles' Evans to puncture three times, Steve Cummins to puncture once, Nicolas Roche and Maxime Monfort to puncture and another 26 riders to puncture with one being flung over the bars and to break their collar bone.

     

    I'd say the removal speed is sixes - it's probably quicker for removal by a tiny amount, but putting back in you have to make sure the disc slides in between the pads cleanly.

    As for the tacker, that is fucking despicable. I hope they find him and shove a seatpost up his arse.

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     got a pair of SPY Matthew Busche Screws given to me tonight. Cant wait to try them out. They are a sick price, and the replacement lenses(20-30) make them a lot more attractive (to me at least) than Oakley

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    Rode some proper tech stuff today, versus the flowy jumpy stuff I've been on for a while. My hands are brutalised but it was good to get back to riding steep shit and hammering through boulders. Utah has a lot of variety.

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    Rode my second XC race yesterday. Hot and humid even at 9 am start time. I knew the course really well since it one of my home parks. Knew exactly where to jump off and run, knew where i could really pedal hard. Well about half way through came to a really easy tech section that I have cleared mult times, but didnt after that I just could find the energy. 17th out of 23. really bummed

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    new bike arriving to shop this week. ultra-stoked.

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    We may see another ELer joining this thread soon, as a member of the "fuck yeah lift accessed bike parks!" club. I won't spill the beans any further.

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    Ho.

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    Shhiiiiiiit:

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    This guy was also racing at the race I was at this past weekend.

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    enn-zed said: We may see another ELer joining this thread soon, as a member of the "fuck yeah lift accessed bike parks!" club. I won't spill the beans any further.

     

    ha!!
    it was fucking ridiculously fun, like little kid giggling the whole way down kinda fun..............so the search for a DH bike begins

  30. F18

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     these things are pricy motherfucking toyz..
    Stay Safe fellas.

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